Legislature(2003 - 2004)

05/08/2003 02:16 PM House FIN

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 HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 21                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
      Relating to establishing the Alaska Energy Policy Task                                                                    
      Force.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 Co-Chair  Harris MOVED  to  ADOPT  work  draft #23-LS1079\D,                                                                   
 Lauterbach, 5/8/03, as the version of the legislation  before                                                                  
 the Committee.  There being NO OBJECTION, it was adopted.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
 Co-Chair  Harris   explained   that  the   resolution   would                                                                  
 establish the  Alaska  Energy Policy  Task Force,  the  first                                                                  
 stage for  developing a  statewide energy  plan.  Initially,                                                                   
 the plan will address  Rail belt concerns  and the issues  in                                                                  
 these areas.   The  plan will  also provide  the Legislature                                                                   
 with  a report  addressing   power  cost equalization   (PCE)                                                                  
 concerns,  mining  and  other  general  interests.    General                                                                  
 obligation (GO)  bonds  will be  discussed  next year  and  a                                                                  
 framework will be developed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 TOM WRIGHT, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE JOHN HARRIS, explained  the                                                                  
 changes  made to  the  committee  substitute.    The  Board's                                                                  
 composition resulted from changes adopted in the work  draft.                                                                  
 Originally, the Chair of the Regulatory Commission of  Alaska                                                                  
 (RCA) was  scheduled  to be  the  Chair  of the  task  force.                                                                  
 Following conversations  with RCA and  the Alaska Industrial                                                                   
 Development and Export  Authority (AIDEA),  concern had  been                                                                  
 voiced that the RCA Chair could have a conflict of interest,                                                                   
 that chair was removed.  It has been requested that  a member                                                                  
 of the  Alaska  Energy  Authority  (AEA)  be  added  to  that                                                                  
 position.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
 A member  was  also added,  jointly  chosen by  the  Minority                                                                  
 leaders of the  House &  Senate and named  by the President,                                                                   
 making  a  nine-member  panel  with  full representation   of                                                                  
 members chosen by the Governor,  the President of the  Senate                                                                  
 and the Speaker of the House.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 Co-Chair Harris  referenced the  fiscal note,  providing  for                                                                  
 board member travel and per diem.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Stoltze  inquired if  there  would be  outside                                                                  
 hire.  Co-Chair Harris responded that it is intended  to hire                                                                  
 someone currently working for the Legislature.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 Mr. Wright added that the  Alaska Energy Authority and  AIDEA                                                                  
 are willing to  work with  the task force  providing as  much                                                                  
 expertise as possible.  He believed the utilities would  also                                                                  
 "come on board".   Representative Stoltze  suggested that  at                                                                  
 the proposed salary,  the position would  be someone  willing                                                                  
 to work "pro bono".                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 RON  MILLER,   (TESTIFIED  VIA   TELECONFERENCE),  EXECUTIVE                                                                   
 DIRETOR,  ALASKA  INDUSTRIAL  DEVELOPMENT  EXPORT  AUTHORITY                                                                   
 (AIDEA), ANCHORAGE, interjected that AIDEA intended  to help.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
 LARRY   MARKLEY,   LOBBYIST,    ALASKA   REGIONAL    ELECTRIC                                                                  
 COOPERATIVE  ASSOCIATION  (ARECA),  ANCHORAGE,  stated   that                                                                  
 ARECA had discussed this  proposal informally as it had  only                                                                  
 recently been introduced.   ARECA has not yet taken a  formal                                                                  
 resolution   regarding    the    concern,    however,    from                                                                  
 conversations, there appears to be support.  There have  been                                                                  
 recommendations made and he preferred that Mr. Yould  address                                                                  
 those suggestions in more detail.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
      ·    ARECA members recommend that the task force                                                                          
           members elect the chair.                                                                                             
      ·    ARECA recommends increasing the number of                                                                            
           utilities from two to three, two from the Rail                                                                       
           belt and one from the rural areas.  Presently, one                                                                   
           comes from the Rail belt and the other from non-                                                                     
           Rail  belt  areas.    He  added  that  because  the                                                                  
           utilities will be  very involved, it would be  good                                                                  
           to have the extra  person representing a Rail  belt                                                                  
           utility.                                                                                                             
      ·    To place someone from the mining industries on the                                                                   
           task force.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
 Co-Chair Harris believed that the President of the Senate  or                                                                  
 the Speaker of the House would place someone from the  mining                                                                  
 industry on the board if  they thought that person was  good.                                                                  
 He  agreed  that  the  board  should  choose  the  Chair  and                                                                  
 recommended that an amendment be made.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
 Representative  Stoltze  questioned   the  intent  of   RCA's                                                                  
 involvement the RCA.  Co-Chair  Harris explained that RCA  is                                                                  
 the critical  component  because they  have  previously  been                                                                  
 involved  in these  types  of  cases.   They  should  be  "on                                                                  
 board".  He realized the  conflict of interest, and that  RCA                                                                  
 would only be involved in the decisions and the effort.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 ERIC  YOULD,   (TESTIFIED  VIA   TELECONFERENCE),  EXECUTIVE                                                                   
 DIRECTOR, ALASKA  REGIONAL ELECTIRC  COOPERATIVE ASSOCIATION                                                                   
 (ARECA), ANCHORAGE, noted that  the members of ARECA  believe                                                                  
 that the resolution  has merit and that  they do support  HCR
 21.  ARECA suggests modification to the number of members  on                                                                  
 the task force.  He questioned if RCA should be the  chair or                                                                  
 even have membership  on the commission.   He indicated  that                                                                  
 ARECA supports the task force electing their own chair.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
 Co-Chair  Harris   pointed  out   that  the   new   committee                                                                  
 substitute has the membership from the Regulatory Commission                                                                   
 removed.  At this time, membership consists of:                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
      ·    One member from AEA                                                                                                  
      ·    Commissioner of Revenue                                                                                              
      ·    Two members appointed by the Governor who are not                                                                    
           members of the Legislature                                                                                           
      ·    Three members chosen by the President of the                                                                         
           Senate who are not members of the Legislature                                                                        
      ·    One member chosen by the Minority Leaders of the                                                                     
           House & Senate                                                                                                       
      ·    Two members chosen by the Speaker of the House who                                                                   
           are not members of the Legislature                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
 Mr. Yould agreed  with those placements.   He suggested  that                                                                  
 because  the issue  is  about  the  utility  industry,  there                                                                  
 should be three members  from the electric utility  industry,                                                                  
 two of  which  should  come from  the  Rail  belt, primarily                                                                   
 because that is where the  majority of the power comes  from.                                                                  
 ARECA recommends  consideration that the  mining industry  be                                                                  
 included in membership.   He offered  to answer questions  of                                                                  
 the Committee.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 Co-Chair Harris  noted  that  the resolution  is  written  to                                                                  
 indicate that a utility would  not have more than one  member                                                                  
 on the task force.  It states that at least one member  would                                                                  
 be from  a Rail belt  utility and  one from  a non-Rail  belt                                                                  
 utility.  He  indicated that  he would  support that  someone                                                                  
 from the mining industry  is represented, suggesting that  to                                                                  
 the Senate President  and/or the Speaker  of the House.   Mr.                                                                  
 Yould voiced his  appreciation and  agreed that Commissioner                                                                   
 Corbus would be a great addition.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Stoltze  asked if  there would  be support  to                                                                  
 include a  consumer on  the  board that  buys more  than  $50                                                                  
 million dollars worth of power.  Mr. Yould stated that  ARECA                                                                  
 would not oppose  that.   Co-Chair Harris  indicated that  he                                                                  
 did not support the idea,  pointing out that person could  be                                                                  
 chosen.  He hoped  to keep the  board "relatively small"  and                                                                  
 not too political.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 Co-Chair Harris  MOVED to  AMEND Page  2, Line  18,  deleting                                                                  
 language, "who  shall act  as chair  of the  task force"  and                                                                  
 inserting on Page  2, Line  27, adding a  new subsection  #6,                                                                  
 "The Chair will be appointed by the Board".                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 Co-Chair  Harris  asked   if  Representative  Berkowitz   was                                                                  
 comfortable with that language.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 REPRESENTATIVE ETHAN  BERKOWITZ commented  that  it would  be                                                                  
 important to have members from the Denali Commission.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Foster MOVED to report CS HCR 21 (FIN)  out of                                                                  
 Committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  with   the                                                                  
 accompanying fiscal note.   There being NO OBJECTION, it  was                                                                  
 so ordered.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
 CS HCR  21 (FIN) was  reported out  of Committee  with a  "do                                                                  
 pass" recommendation  and  with  a  new fiscal  note  by  the                                                                  
 Legislative Affairs Agency.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

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